Fatigue and sadness Discussion
Eight questions in order, and they will only work if you resist the pull of the obvious answer. Her vital signs say something is physiologically wrong, so the plan cannot end at bereavement.
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Last reviewed · August 23, 2026
Why the vital signs stop this being a grief case
The case is engineered to see whether you will stop at the first plausible answer. Everything in the story points toward bereavement, and the chief complaint says so in the patient's own words, so the easy post writes about grief and prescribes support. Then read the numbers. A blood pressure of 95/60 with a heart rate of 98 and a respiratory rate of 22 is not what uncomplicated grief looks like. That combination in a woman described as gaunt suggests volume depletion, and the raised respiratory rate raises the question of infection or a compensatory response to metabolic acidosis. Confusion in a 78-year-old is a red flag in its own right and should be treated as delirium until proven otherwise, which reverses the whole framing: the sadness may be a symptom of the physiological problem rather than its cause. Nothing says the two readings cannot both be true; it says one was assumed and one measured.
So build a differential that is genuinely wide, and give each entry a reason drawn from this patient. Uncomplicated bereavement and major depressive disorder both belong, and the distinction between them is the assessment question the case is really about. Beside them put dehydration, occult infection including urinary and pulmonary sources, hypothyroidism, anaemia, electrolyte disturbance, malnutrition, and undiagnosed malignancy, which three years without care makes entirely possible. Caregiver burden belongs too, not as a diagnosis but as the context that produced her self-neglect. Then answer the questions in the order asked, because the eight parts are a sequence: subjective, then objective, then differentials, then the labs that discriminate between them, then the named screening tools, then a plan, then teaching, then the consult decision with a reason attached rather than a yes or no. Say what the referral would be for, not merely that you would make one, since the threshold is the part being assessed.
Likely learning objectives
- Read vital signs as evidence that reframes a psychosocial presentation.
- Treat new confusion in an older adult as delirium until excluded.
- Construct a differential wide enough to include physiological causes of low mood.
- Select named, validated screening instruments rather than generic assessments.
Assignment instructions
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A 78-year-old female comes to your office escorted by a neighbor who is a patient of yours. The neighbor, who has lived next door to the older woman for years, relates that a week ago the elderly woman’s sister died and that she had been her caregiver for many years. The neighbor relates that although she would occasionally see the older woman, she did not visit the home. At the funeral last week, she noticed that the woman appeared fatigued, confused, sad, and gaunt in appearance. Later the neighbor approached the woman, inquired about her health, and determined that the woman had a very difficult time the past couple of months, caring alone for her sister until the end when hospice care was initiated. The neighbor convinced the woman to seek medical care and today is the first appointment with a provider that this 78-year-old female has had in 3 years. The older woman states that she is very fatigued and sad over the loss of her sister. Neither her sister nor the patient has been married. A distant niece came to the funeral but lives about 30 miles away. The woman states that she is not taking any prescription medication and relates no medical problems that she is aware of being diagnosed. Vital signs: T 97.6°F, HR 98, RR 22, BP 95/60, BMI 21 Chief Complaint: Fatigue and sadness over the death of her older sister. Discuss the following: 1) What additional subjective information will you be asking the patient? 2) What additional objective findings would you be examining the patient for? 3) What are the differential diagnoses that you are considering? 4) What laboratory tests will help you rule out some of the differential diagnoses? 5) What screening tools will you select to use on this patient? 6) What is your plan of care? 7) What additional patient teaching may be needed? 8) Will you be looking for a consult?
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The eight questions this case asks
- 01The additional subjective information you would ask the patient.
- 02The additional objective findings you would examine for.
- 03The differential diagnoses under consideration.
- 04The laboratory tests that would rule out some of those differentials.
- 05The screening tools you would select for this patient.
- 06A plan of care, additional patient teaching, and a consult decision.
Working the case in the order it is asked
Additional subjective data
Set out the history you still need on intake, weight loss, sleep, medications and safety at home.
What the assessor is likely looking for
Questions that would change management, not a template review of systems.
Additional objective findings
Name the examination elements that address volume status, infection and cognition.
What the assessor is likely looking for
Orthostatic vitals and mucous membranes examined because of this BP.
The differential, argued
List the differentials with the finding in this case that supports each.
What the assessor is likely looking for
Physiological causes present alongside the psychiatric ones.
Laboratory tests that discriminate
Pair each test with the differential it would rule in or out.
What the assessor is likely looking for
Tests tied to differentials rather than an admission panel.
Named screening instruments
Select and justify the specific tools for mood, cognition, nutrition and function.
What the assessor is likely looking for
Instruments named and matched to what they are validated to detect.
Plan, teaching and consult
Set out immediate management, what the patient needs to understand, and the referral trigger.
What the assessor is likely looking for
A consult decision with a stated threshold behind it.
Where the screening tools and criteria come from
Recommended databases
- NCBI Bookshelf (StatPearls)
- US Preventive Services Task Force
- PubMed Central
- CINAHL
Search sequence
- 1.Look up the current adult depression screening recommendation before naming a tool.
- 2.Read the prolonged grief criteria so you can distinguish it from depression on paper.
- 3.Search geriatric assessment for the validated nutrition and function instruments.
- 4.Check malnutrition and frailty outcomes to justify the nutritional screen.
Reference shortlist
These are authoritative starting points, not a ready-made bibliography. A qualified reviewer must confirm that each source fits the assignment and supports the claim beside which it is cited.
Recommendation: Depression and Suicide Risk in Adults: Screening
US Preventive Services Task Force · 2023
The current adult screening recommendation, which is where the mood instrument choice comes from.
Grief and Prolonged Grief Disorder
StatPearls, NCBI Bookshelf · 2023
Grief and prolonged grief disorder, for separating bereavement from major depression.
Geriatric Care Special Needs Assessment
StatPearls Publishing (NCBI Bookshelf) · 2023
Geriatric assessment, for the domains this visit has to cover after three years without care.
Malnutrition and Frailty as Independent Predictors of Adverse Outcomes in Hospitalized Older Adults: A Prospective Single Center Study
Nutrients · 2025
Malnutrition and frailty outcomes, which justify screening a gaunt patient formally.
Major Depressive Disorder
StatPearls, NCBI Bookshelf · 2023
Major depressive disorder criteria, for the diagnostic threshold the screen would feed.
Before you submit the case discussion
Common mistakes
- Accepting bereavement as the answer and never returning to the vital signs.
- Treating the confusion as a feature of grief rather than as possible delirium.
- Listing laboratory tests that do not discriminate between the stated differentials.
- Naming 'a depression screen' instead of a specific validated instrument.
- Answering the consult question yes or no without saying what triggers it.
Submission checklist
- Have you interpreted the blood pressure, heart rate and respiratory rate explicitly?
- Is delirium in your differential with a reason attached?
- Does every laboratory test map to a differential it can exclude?
- Are your screening tools named instruments rather than categories?
- Does the consult answer state the condition that would trigger the referral?
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Maren Caldwell
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Medical-surgical nursing, pharmacology and NCLEX preparation
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